What are the new -3 cylinders all about? I replaced our cable on a '96 SeaRay in 2005 because of hard steering. Re: Hynautic Steering I have the same system on my 1989 23 Seacraft Wa and I would agree with your statement that they are naturally stiff, but not hard to turn. It burps a big bubble at the helm. I have seen this, maybe 100+ times over the past 30 yrs with these old systems, and you can reduce steering effort by 50%+ with proper plumbing to reduce "fluid friction" by eliminating all the valves, auto bleeder valve, pressurized tank, etc. Bleed your seastar or uflex system by yourself quickly and easy. Hydraulic Steering Fluid. Steering wheel or RIM force becomes uncomfortable much above 5-8 lbs, so sizing the ram to keep pressures low means less rim force or effort to turn the steering wheel… With power steering, pressures are usually higher and can play havoc with a ram if undersized. • Turn steering wheel hard over to hard over to confirm unrestricted movement of the steering system and hoses. If interference occurs, or, hoses are being stretched this MUST be removed prior to operating your boat. Hydraulic Steering Systems FAQ’s . Hydraulic Steering Cylinders. Hydraulic steering makes handling high-torque engines and high-speed boats easy and safe. I have never had a problem with it. over and over. • Turn steering wheel hard over to hard over to ensure rudder(s) and/or outdrive(s) are responding to input at the wheel. To remove it, back off on the hex nut securing the steering wheel in place. Confirm that there is no interference between the steering cylinder(s), tiebars and the transom, splashwell, outboard engine or jackplate or any combination of these parts by performing the following steps; a) With engine fully tilted DOWN, turn steering wheel from hard over to hard over and confirm that no interference occurs. The components he used were made by Hynautic. To replace the starboard seal gland, turn the outboard hard to starboard and repeat steps 1 through 6. Turn steering wheel hard to starboard. Next, grab the steering wheel and flex it side to side while applying a hard … Every 100 hours or 3 months (whichever comes first) • All points noted in 1. You will not harm the helm of the system. We have gone to a fully anodized aluminum parts, and to ORB hose fittings in the cylinder body. Turn the helm pump (steering wheel) in one direction only at least 30-40 turns (even more turns on boats with long hose runs). Repeat this procedure in ALL trim/tilt positions of the engine(s). SeaStar offers rugged 3-line Hynautic Heavy Duty steering systems for most work and pleasure vessels up to 70 feet. My stiff experience...with the Hynautic system, turned out to be the rudder post/shafts / packing was corroded causing wheel to turn hard. SeaStar/BayStar Hydraulic Steering Fluid; SeaStar Power Purge Jr; SeaStar Power Purge Sr; Inboard Power Steering; Inboard Steering. Joined: Oct 25, 2004 Location: Annapolis, MD. Turn bottle upside down (like an IV). Every thing was cleaned up, polished, greased and re-assembled. Now that the helm is full of hydraulic steering fluid go ahead and have your assistant turn the wheel hard over to the right, as my assistant is doing now. This 16 foot hydraulic steering hose is constructed of marine grade plastic, and features 3/8" ID and brass fittings. Apply enough force to the wheel to exceed pressure relief Valve pressure. Continue turning to the PORT side until engine comes hard over. Hynautic Hydraulic Helm H-50 Rebuild. Messages: 2,049 Likes Received: 11. Hydraulic Steering Discussion in 'General Conversation' started by quickstep192, Feb 23, 2005. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > Feb 23, 2005 #1. quickstep192 Well-Known Member Supporting Captain. I ordered a Seal Kit from Jamestown Distributers for $37.59 total. Marine supplies, boat building, repair and woodworking products including paint, varnish, epoxy, hardware, and more. • Check torque value on ALL fasteners throughout the steering system. Heavy Duty helms combine one or two bi-directional axial piston pumps with pilot check and make-up check valving. Larger displacement rams make for more turns but also keep pressures low. It’s currently got a hynautic air/fluid system. To do so, turn steering wheel (any one on a multi-steering station) and pressurize very hard to port. Its not a cheap conversion but it is worth it. • Confirm that engine(s) are steering to the proper Correct any leaks that are found. The only difference is that the steering ram has bleed screws on both ends, so you turn the helm to one side and bleed the compressed end of the ram, then go hard the other way and bleed that end of the ram. Tools and inspiration for craftsmen since 1977 Quick Tip: Use the adjusting nut inboard of the starboard support bracket to remove steering slop. Repeat on ALL steering stations on board (including autopilots). Once the tension screw is loosened on this nut, turn it counterclockwise by hand to remove any slop, and then retighten the tension bolt. Hard. You will have to change the steering head to a hydraulic pump, add a reservoir, a cylinder to move the rudder and run hoses from the reservoir to the cylinder and from the steering head to the reservoir. HYNAUTIC THREE LINE BLEED Use Hynautic steering oil or light viscosity hydraulic oil that meets the aircraft hydraulic fluid spec Mil-H-5606, such as Texaco #15, Exxon Univis J-13, Castrol AWH-15, Castrol Aero-585-B, or Shell Tellus 15. The wheel can be turn with one finger now. If you have a steering … Keep pressure on the wheel while your assistant checks all the hydraulic connections and fittings for leaks. Have a second crew ready at the steering cylinder. Will moving to the Capilano system help this issue and make it easier to steer? This is not power assist hydraulic steering, the pump is at the helm and operated by turning the wheel that then pumps the fluid to (or from) the ram. If your worried about forcing the pressure relief valves, open the brass nuts (4) turn hard stb, after several turns, all should be at max stb travel, close the nuts and turn to … Inboard Steering : Instruction Manuals, Catalogues Power Packs and Linear Drives for Autopilots : Instruction Manuals, Catalogues Electro-Hydraulic Steering Systems “Steer-by-Wire” : Instruction Manuals, Catalogues When an air free stream is seen, CLOSE bleeder nipple. Turn steering wheel to the port side pumping air/fluid out of bleeder fitting. Turn the helm hard over and hold light pressure on the wheel. Hopefully this write up will help anyone who would like to rebuild their helm themselves. The parts will run about $1000. Fishing Gear and Accessories The finest hard-to-find fishing gear and accessories in the world. Once the steering cylinder has moved all the way over, is hard over, go ahead and crack the starboard bleeder valve. The steering bars were disconnected, the packing removed and the rudders were removed. The -3 cylinders mount the exact same as the older ones, have the same volume and output. Next, turn to … Marine Steering Service BoatersCatalog.com / Southern Charm is the leader in Hynautic steering system repair as well as all other brands of marine steering service world-wide. Feedback is eliminated and holding a steady course is simplified because no steering effort is required until you actually want to turn the engine or rudder. A little smaller bubble. My older Hynautic or Capilano system is starting to get really hard to turn, what shall I check first? Turn it back and can't get anymore until I let it sit for a few. Hynautic steering does not work. It’s quite hard to steer when under power. Leave the nut on the steering shaft with engagement of all the threads in the nut on the shaft, but loosened relative to the steering wheel itself. Open starboard bleeder nipple located on the steering cylinder. Boat Hydraulic Steering Kit A Boat Steering Kit Dedicated To Command And Control SeaStar Solutions have put boaters in command and control of their vessels for over 60 years. Re: Hynautic Steering question Post by prowlersfish » Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:05 pm bjanakos wrote: Connect your oil on the helm and you turn the wheel hard right until the cylinder locks. I am going to jump in here as your issue with hard steering "running, or the hard" said it all.. Then turn to the hard stop to port. Then I can kick it and get another bubble. BayStar Inboard (International Only) Capilano; Hynautic; SeaStar Inboard; Outboard Steering. 2. I can turn the steering wheel but only with 2 hands and a lot of grunting. Helm Seal Kit # HS-05. Mine started leaking intermediately at the top of the helm. We offer hydraulic steering systems packages. This will circulate all the fluid in the lines back to the helm pump where the air bubbles will escape out the clear fill tube and up into the fluid bottle. I'll leave the valve open. I can also get it to burp if I turn hard over and then give it a short tug past the stopping point. The second crew should locate the air bleed screws on the cylinder and note the side of the cylinder under light pressure (extended side). 4. I just sold an Ellis with hynautic steering and want to help the new owner. Turn the other way and same thing. We find that many of the times the steering cylinder is frozen in the cylinder body, to check this, remove the steering lines and try to push the cylinder, if you can’t move it, replace it. Turn the steering wheel to full lock in one direction, and then apply additional force to pressurize the system. Lots of guru's here so please help with a steering question. 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